[asterisk-users] Compatibility Issues with dell poweredge 1950 and TE110P card

[Joseph Begumisa]

Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed on a
Dell Poweredge 1950? I noted the following error on the LCD display of the
Dell Poweredge 1950:



E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.



The Dell hardware owners manual states that it means the system BIOS has
reported a PCI parity error on a component that resides in PCI configuration
space at bus 0, device 4, function 0 and advises that the PCI expansion card
be removed and reseated.



Any suggestions on what exactly might be causing this are welcome.



Thanks.



Joseph

[Erik Anderson]

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed on a
Dell Poweredge 1950? I noted the following error on the LCD display of the
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
The Dell hardware owners manual states that it means the system BIOS has
reported a PCI parity error on a component that resides in PCI configuration
space at bus 0, device 4, function 0 and advises that the PCI expansion card
be removed and reseated.

I had this error on a 1950 while testing a Sangoma quad-port card.
Re-seating the PCI expansion board seemed to solve the problem.

-erik

[Steve Totaro]

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950? I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
The Dell hardware owners manual states that it means the system BIOS
has reported a PCI parity error on a component that resides in PCI
configuration space at bus 0, device 4, function 0 and advises that
the PCI expansion card be removed and reseated.
Any suggestions on what exactly might be causing this are welcome.
Thanks.
Joseph

My guess would be that the Digium card is causing the issue although you
would probably be led to believe that the Dell is not compatible with
the card and not visa versa.

It would be interesting to see if a Sangoma board would have that same
issue. I have not had any of these compatibility issues since going
Sangoma.

Is this an older card or one with the "New and Improved Bus" thing?

Have you called Digium?

Thanks,
Steve

[David Gomillion]

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950? I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.

Yes, I have had this problem with a dell PE1650, 1850, SC1400, and PE650. I
have a TE410P that does it. It may not be wise, but I just ignore the orange
blinking LCD display (or light, depending on the model). I did try reseating
the card, and it "works" for a few weeks, and then goes back to the same old
thing.

[Joseph Begumisa]

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950?  I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
Yes, I have had this problem with a dell PE1650, 1850, SC1400, and PE650. I

have a TE410P that does it. It may not be wise, but I just ignore the orange
blinking LCD display (or light, >depending on the model). I did try
reseating the card, and it "works" for a few weeks, and then goes back to
the same old thing.

Yes, that happened too. Digium has graciously offered to send me a TE120P
with the Digium VoiceBus technology which I will test out on the Dell 1950.
Will post my findings thereafter.

Joseph.

[Paul Hales]

We had issues with TE110p cards in Dell 860's, but TE120p's fixed the
problem.

PaulH

Post by David Gomillion

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950? I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
Yes, I have had this problem with a dell PE1650, 1850, SC1400, and PE650. I

have a TE410P that does it. It may not be wise, but I just ignore the orange
blinking LCD display (or light, >depending on the model). I did try
reseating the card, and it "works" for a few weeks, and then goes back to
the same old thing.
Yes, that happened too. Digium has graciously offered to send me a TE120P
with the Digium VoiceBus technology which I will test out on the Dell 1950.
Will post my findings thereafter.
Joseph.
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[Joseph Begumisa]

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Compatibility Issues with dell poweredge 195

and

TE110P card
We had issues with TE110p cards in Dell 860's, but TE120p's fixed the
problem.
PaulH

It is now 1 week since I replaced the TE110P with the TE120P in the Dell
Poweredge 1950 and I have not had any problems. The TE120P seems to have
resolved the earlier problem I had.


Joseph

[Brian Hutchinson]

You guys are scaring me! I'm building a 2950 with SAS RAID 5 on the new PERC
and it will have 2 TE420P's. I hope it works or my bacon will fry.

Post by David Gomillion

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950?I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
Yes, I have had this problem with a dell PE1650, 1850, SC1400, and PE650.

I
have a TE410P that does it. It may not be wise, but I just ignore the orange
blinking LCD display (or light, >depending on the model). I did try
reseating the card, and it "works" for a few weeks, and then goes back to
the same old thing.
Yes, that happened too. Digium has graciously offered to send me a TE120P
with the Digium VoiceBus technology which I will test out on the Dell 1950.
Will post my findings thereafter.
Joseph.
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[Matthew Fredrickson]

Post by Brian Hutchinson
You guys are scaring me! I'm building a 2950 with SAS RAID 5 on the new PERC
and it will have 2 TE420P's. I hope it works or my bacon will fry.

You shouldn't see any problems with those boards. The 2950 is a common
environment. If I remember correctly, there used to be a problem (and I
think it was localized to the TE110P as well, IIRC), but it was fixed a
while ago.

Post by Brian Hutchinson

Post by David Gomillion

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950?I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
Yes, I have had this problem with a dell PE1650, 1850, SC1400, and PE650.

I
have a TE410P that does it. It may not be wise, but I just ignore the orange
blinking LCD display (or light, >depending on the model). I did try
reseating the card, and it "works" for a few weeks, and then goes back to
the same old thing.
Yes, that happened too. Digium has graciously offered to send me a TE120P
with the Digium VoiceBus technology which I will test out on the Dell 1950.
Will post my findings thereafter.
Joseph.
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[Brian Hutchinson]

The thing I'm trying to get an answer on now is getting Dell or rPath to
tell me what I have to do to get the 256M battery backed up RAM going and if
I have to do anything special due to the SAS drives on the new PERC 5/i
controller!

I'm running AsteriskNOW to build my project while I wait for the TE420P
cards to come in and ABE to be released.

Regards,

Brian

Post by Matthew Fredrickson

Post by Brian Hutchinson
You guys are scaring me! I'm building a 2950 with SAS RAID 5 on the new

PERC

Post by Brian Hutchinson
and it will have 2 TE420P's. I hope it works or my bacon will fry.

You shouldn't see any problems with those boards. The 2950 is a common
environment. If I remember correctly, there used to be a problem (and I
think it was localized to the TE110P as well, IIRC), but it was fixed a
while ago.

Post by Brian Hutchinson

Post by David Gomillion

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950?I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
Yes, I have had this problem with a dell PE1650, 1850, SC1400, and

PE650.

Post by Brian Hutchinson

Post by David Gomillion
I
have a TE410P that does it. It may not be wise, but I just ignore the orange
blinking LCD display (or light, >depending on the model). I did try
reseating the card, and it "works" for a few weeks, and then goes back

to

Post by Brian Hutchinson

Post by David Gomillion
the same old thing.
Yes, that happened too. Digium has graciously offered to send me a

TE120P

Post by Brian Hutchinson

Post by David Gomillion
with the Digium VoiceBus technology which I will test out on the Dell 1950.
Will post my findings thereafter.
Joseph.
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[Steven]

2950s work fine.

I have had the parity error for over a year with no noticable problems. It is working fine.

I did have to make some IRQ changes to clean up the system.

I did these on my Dell 1750 test machine, but have made the same changes on my production machine.
The changes basically redue the IRQ load from other cards, like the RAID card, which will reduce the bus's capacity for processing all of the TDM IRQs.
It also allocates just one CPU full time for all of the TDM IRQs.

The changes are below:


ref:
FYI on zttool output on SMP system

--- Results after 56 passes ---
Best: 100.000000 -- Worst: 99.987793 -- Average: 99.999564
Only 2 were 99.987793, the 54 others were all 100.000000.

I got this by making the changes below on my dual proc Dell 1750.

setpci -v -s 01:08.1 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 00:0f.1 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 01:04.0 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 01:02.0 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 00:0f.2 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 01:04.0 LATENCY_TIMER=8 (these are USB, SCSI HW RAID driver, Ethernet, Video, etc. I did not alter ZAP cards, nor any
bridges or buses)

echo 1 > /proc/irq/17/smp_affinity (Ethernet)
echo 1 > /proc/irq/18/smp_affinity (SCSI HW RAID Driver)
echo 2 > /proc/irq/20/smp_affinity (TDM)
echo 2 > /proc/irq/24/smp_affinity (TE411P)

I also turned of the startup of irqbalance.

The setpci changes did the most work concerning reaching 100% in zttest.

Irqbalance was causing the the processor handling the interrupts of the zap cards to change very often.
This would impose a delay during the change and cause the zttest numbers to drop/be inconsistent.

Because I turned irqbalance off, the irqs are processed round robin style, which is also not good.
Therefore, I hard coded the processor affinity for the zap cards to one proc and all other high load irqs to the other proc.
If you have more than 2 procs, you can spread them out even more. If you do not turn off irqbalance, the affinity changes will be
overwritten by it.

I made these changes on a live system without issue.
I set these changes in /etc/rc.d/rc.local to reset them after reboots.
--
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"Brian Hutchinson" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:***@mail.gmail.com...
You guys are scaring me! I'm building a 2950 with SAS RAID 5 on the new PERC and it will have 2 TE420P's. I hope it works or my bacon will fry.

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950?I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
Yes, I have had this problem with a dell PE1650, 1850, SC1400, and PE650. I

have a TE410P that does it. It may not be wise, but I just ignore the orange
blinking LCD display (or light, >depending on the model). I did try
reseating the card, and it "works" for a few weeks, and then goes back to
the same old thing.

Yes, that happened too. Digium has graciously offered to send me a TE120P
with the Digium VoiceBus technology which I will test out on the Dell 1950.
Will post my findings thereafter.

Joseph.




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[broadband Voice]

How did this workout? I am considering getting the Dell PowerEdge 2950.

Post by Steven
2950s work fine.
I have had the parity error for over a year with no noticable problems.
It is working fine.
I did have to make some IRQ changes to clean up the system.
I did these on my Dell 1750 test machine, but have made the same changes
on my production machine.
The changes basically redue the IRQ load from other cards, like the RAID
card, which will reduce the bus's capacity for processing all of the TDM
IRQs.
It also allocates just one CPU full time for all of the TDM IRQs.
FYI on zttool output on SMP system
--- Results after 56 passes ---
Best: 100.000000 -- Worst: 99.987793 -- Average: 99.999564
Only 2 were 99.987793, the 54 others were all 100.000000.
I got this by making the changes below on my dual proc Dell 1750.
setpci -v -s 01:08.1 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 00:0f.1 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 01:04.0 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 01:02.0 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 00:0f.2 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 01:04.0 LATENCY_TIMER=8 (these are USB, SCSI HW RAID driver,
Ethernet, Video, etc. I did not alter ZAP cards, nor any
bridges or buses)
echo 1 > /proc/irq/17/smp_affinity (Ethernet)
echo 1 > /proc/irq/18/smp_affinity (SCSI HW RAID Driver)
echo 2 > /proc/irq/20/smp_affinity (TDM)
echo 2 > /proc/irq/24/smp_affinity (TE411P)
I also turned of the startup of irqbalance.
The setpci changes did the most work concerning reaching 100% in zttest.
Irqbalance was causing the the processor handling the interrupts of the
zap cards to change very often.
This would impose a delay during the change and cause the zttest numbers
to drop/be inconsistent.
Because I turned irqbalance off, the irqs are processed round robin style,
which is also not good.
Therefore, I hard coded the processor affinity for the zap cards to one
proc and all other high load irqs to the other proc.
If you have more than 2 procs, you can spread them out even more. If you
do not turn off irqbalance, the affinity changes will be
overwritten by it.
I made these changes on a live system without issue.
I set these changes in /etc/rc.d/rc.local to reset them after reboots.
--
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http://www.glimasoutheast.org
You guys are scaring me! I'm building a 2950 with SAS RAID 5 on the new
PERC and it will have 2 TE420P's. I hope it works or my bacon will fry.

Post by David Gomillion

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950?I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
Yes, I have had this problem with a dell PE1650, 1850, SC1400, and

PE650. I
have a TE410P that does it. It may not be wise, but I just ignore the orange
blinking LCD display (or light, >depending on the model). I did try
reseating the card, and it "works" for a few weeks, and then goes back to
the same old thing.
Yes, that happened too. Digium has graciously offered to send me a TE120P
with the Digium VoiceBus technology which I will test out on the Dell1950.
Will post my findings thereafter.
Joseph.
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[Steven]

zttest:

--- Results after 44 passes ---
Best: 100.000000 -- Worst: 99.987793 -- Average: 99.988350

Dell 2950
Wildcard TE410P (2nd Gen) (rev 02) (with echo cancel daughter board)
1 PRI configured to Telco
1 PRI configured to old Panasonic DBS 576 being used just as a mux for our fax machines.
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"broadband Voice" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:***@mail.gmail.com...
How did this workout? I am considering getting the Dell PowerEdge 2950.


On 11/5/07, Steven <***@tescogroup.com> wrote:
2950s work fine.

I have had the parity error for over a year with no noticable problems. It is working fine.

I did have to make some IRQ changes to clean up the system.

I did these on my Dell 1750 test machine, but have made the same changes on my production machine.
The changes basically redue the IRQ load from other cards, like the RAID card, which will reduce the bus's capacity for processing
all of the TDM IRQs.
It also allocates just one CPU full time for all of the TDM IRQs.

The changes are below:


ref:
FYI on zttool output on SMP system

--- Results after 56 passes ---
Best: 100.000000 -- Worst: 99.987793 -- Average: 99.999564
Only 2 were 99.987793, the 54 others were all 100.000000.

I got this by making the changes below on my dual proc Dell 1750.

setpci -v -s 01:08.1 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 00:0f.1 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 01:04.0 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 01:02.0 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 00:0f.2 LATENCY_TIMER=8
setpci -v -s 01:04.0 LATENCY_TIMER=8 (these are USB, SCSI HW RAID driver, Ethernet, Video, etc. I did not alter ZAP cards, nor any
bridges or buses)

echo 1 > /proc/irq/17/smp_affinity (Ethernet)
echo 1 > /proc/irq/18/smp_affinity (SCSI HW RAID Driver)
echo 2 > /proc/irq/20/smp_affinity (TDM)
echo 2 > /proc/irq/24/smp_affinity (TE411P)

I also turned of the startup of irqbalance.

The setpci changes did the most work concerning reaching 100% in zttest.

Irqbalance was causing the the processor handling the interrupts of the zap cards to change very often.
This would impose a delay during the change and cause the zttest numbers to drop/be inconsistent.

Because I turned irqbalance off, the irqs are processed round robin style, which is also not good.
Therefore, I hard coded the processor affinity for the zap cards to one proc and all other high load irqs to the other proc.
If you have more than 2 procs, you can spread them out even more. If you do not turn off irqbalance, the affinity changes will be
overwritten by it.

I made these changes on a live system without issue.
I set these changes in /etc/rc.d/rc.local to reset them after reboots.
--
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http://www.glimasoutheast.org



"Brian Hutchinson" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:***@mail.gmail.com...
You guys are scaring me! I'm building a 2950 with SAS RAID 5 on the new PERC and it will have 2 TE420P's. I hope it works or my
bacon will fry.

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950?I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
Yes, I have had this problem with a dell PE1650, 1850, SC1400, and PE650. I

have a TE410P that does it. It may not be wise, but I just ignore the orange
blinking LCD display (or light, >depending on the model). I did try
reseating the card, and it "works" for a few weeks, and then goes back to
the same old thing.

Yes, that happened too. Digium has graciously offered to send me a TE120P
with the Digium VoiceBus technology which I will test out on the Dell 1950.
Will post my findings thereafter.

Joseph.




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[Massimo Nuvoli]

Post by Steven
--- Results after 44 passes ---
Best: 100.000000 -- Worst: 99.987793 -- Average: 99.988350
Dell 2950
Wildcard TE410P (2nd Gen) (rev 02) (with echo cancel daughter board)
1 PRI configured to Telco
1 PRI configured to old Panasonic DBS 576 being used just as a mux for our fax machines.

I had a lot of problems with the "similar" 2850, the issue i found is
the irq of the PCI slot shared with one of the eth onboard. Every slot
share his irq with a device onboard...

After a lot of test i bougt a Sangoma card, all problems solved. Now
the system is 5 PRI (1 4PRI and 1 1PRI) all working ok (more than
400.000 channel/year). The only Digium board is a TDM400 that, i
think, works for some strange miracle...

1) Dell is a strange Company, there is not support for my Debian 4.0
distro (even with gold warranty), so no help from us.

2) Digium tell "if you use strange hardware and/or shared irq....".

3) Sangoma "The card works with shared IRQ".

All is true, but only one is a solution.

:-)

Bye.

P.s.
You can change the server but the "sharing" of the irq is very common.

[Massimo Nuvoli]

Post by Steven
Irqbalance was causing the the processor handling the interrupts of
the zap cards to change very often.
This would impose a delay during the change and cause the zttest
numbers to drop/be inconsistent.

Irqbalance is a good idea BUT some kernel (and some driver) is not so
happy to the "irq affinity change".

The right idea is to disable IRQBALANCE, to assign at boot che irq to
one physical CPU (remember HT and multicore CPU share the same IO).

And also, some Linux kernel is so bad that freeze with irqbalance running.

:-)

Bye.

[Matthew Fredrickson]

Post by Steve Totaro

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed
on a Dell Poweredge 1950? I noted the following error on the LCD
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
The Dell hardware owners manual states that it means the system BIOS
has reported a PCI parity error on a component that resides in PCI
configuration space at bus 0, device 4, function 0 and advises that
the PCI expansion card be removed and reseated.
Any suggestions on what exactly might be causing this are welcome.
Thanks.
Joseph

My guess would be that the Digium card is causing the issue although you
would probably be led to believe that the Dell is not compatible with
the card and not visa versa.
It would be interesting to see if a Sangoma board would have that same
issue. I have not had any of these compatibility issues since going
Sangoma.
Is this an older card or one with the "New and Improved Bus" thing?

The TE110P has the old style PCI interface on it. The TE120 is the
newer one based on Voicebus. In any case, he should contact tech
support about this so we can resolve it.

[Matthew Fredrickson]

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed on a
Dell Poweredge 1950? I noted the following error on the LCD display of the
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
The Dell hardware owners manual states that it means the system BIOS has
reported a PCI parity error on a component that resides in PCI configuration
space at bus 0, device 4, function 0 and advises that the PCI expansion card
be removed and reseated.
Any suggestions on what exactly might be causing this are welcome.

This sounds like something worthy of notifying tech support of. Can you
try contacting them so that they can further diagnose this problem?

Thanks.

[j***@gmail.com]

Digium said the issue was resolved in the newest zaptel. They also
suggested they would replace cards with the newer versions if there
was an issue. Might want to call Digium and hope for the best in this
case.

Post by Joseph Begumisa
Has anyone had any compatibility issues with a TE110P card installed on a
Dell Poweredge 1950? I noted the following error on the LCD display of the
E1711 PCI PErr Slot 1 E171F PCIE Fatal Error B0 D4 F0.
The Dell hardware owners manual states that it means the system BIOS has
reported a PCI parity error on a component that resides in PCI configuration
space at bus 0, device 4, function 0 and advises that the PCI expansion card
be removed and reseated.
Any suggestions on what exactly might be causing this are welcome.
Thanks.
Joseph
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