Discussion:
CTI/TAPI
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Harald Baron
2003-12-02 08:38:42 UTC
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Hi

I want to connect a Windows machine over TAPI with the Asterisk PBX.

So is it possible to connect the Windows machine directly to Asterisk
(Zaptel card)?

Thanks
Harry Baron
Michael Devenijn
2003-12-02 09:10:40 UTC
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I'm a windows developer ready to develop TSP/MSP (TAPI) drivers for asterisk PBX .... but i searched a little more support to develop these drivers ...
unfortunatly i have to develop the drivers commercially because i will need to hire a asterisk "freak" to explain me in detail how everything works on the side of asterisk so i can implement in the most secure and correct way a TAPI driver on a windows platform for asterisk running on linux (which will for example do his communication with the manager API). but i think we will need to do some additional development of the manager API (which will stay free and eventually communnicated to those who are interested to be in accordance to the asterisk license) but the windows developement will stay our propiarity (simply because we are not an big budget company and we want to get our children some food at the end of the month)

Just to inform the community ... i received an offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training +/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!

Kind regards


Michael Devenijn
DKMA
________________________________

Van: Harald Baron [mailto:***@ascom.ch]
Verzonden: di 2/12/2003 9:38
Aan: asterisk-***@lists.digium.com
Onderwerp: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI


Hi

I want to connect a Windows machine over TAPI with the Asterisk PBX.

So is it possible to connect the Windows machine directly to Asterisk
(Zaptel card)?

Thanks
Harry Baron
Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
2003-12-02 14:23:13 UTC
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Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have
someone played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck can afford
to pay such a price for a week's training???
Steve Underwood
2003-12-02 15:33:13 UTC
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Post by Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have
someone played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck can afford
to pay such a price for a week's training???
It says plus or minus 20,000USD. I can afford -20,000USD. In fact, I can
afford that every week :-)

Regards,
Steve
TC
2003-12-02 14:55:22 UTC
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Post by Michael Devenijn
I'm a windows developer ready to develop TSP/MSP (TAPI) drivers for
asterisk PBX .... but i searched a little >more support to develop these
drivers ...
Post by Michael Devenijn
unfortunatly i have to develop the drivers commercially because i will need
to hire a asterisk "freak" to explain >me in detail how everything works on
the side of asterisk so i can implement in the most secure and correct >way
a TAPI driver on a windows platform for asterisk running on linux (which
will for example do his >communication with the manager API). but i think we
will need to do some additional development of the >manager API
This is quite interesting, I spent a few hours researching this on the
week-end
The manager interface will *never* support the functionality required for a
TSPI ...
& we dont want it to either manager should stay its nice simple self
We need to write TSPIMgr on *...the windows side of this effort, will just
be a wrapper on calls
to the TSPI provider win32 dll api's. At present there are also concepts
present in TAPI/TSAPI
that do now have corresponding functionality in * at the granularity
required. A lot of it is there
but we certainly need to invent some constructs, as opposed to simpily
mapping a TSPI call to
a native * api call once we receive the socket message request.

Each TSPI required interface is just going to be a msg that gets sent over a
socket call to the new * TSPIMgr.
The win32 side will manage state, the required strucs, perculate the events,
& interface to *.

I would be willing to work with you on the project,
I am sure it will be in the order of 2-3 man months its not rocket science,
but is certainly not trivial....

ps. we may have the a opportunity to use the www.julmar.com kit...as open
src lets keep our fingers
crossed on that, it would realy reduce the time spent on the win32 side

you can contact me off list if you like ...

thx tim
Scott Stingel
2003-12-02 15:18:46 UTC
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Must have included a week in Amsterdam

Scott M. Stingel
Emerging Voice Technology Inc.

URL: www.evtmedia.com
-----Original Message-----
Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:23 PM
To: Asterisk Users
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI
Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have
someone played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck
can afford
to pay such a price for a week's training???
_______________________________________________
Asterisk-Users mailing list
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Michael Bielicki
2003-12-02 15:52:40 UTC
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na, rather 3 days in London with stay in Mayfair :)))
Post by Scott Stingel
Must have included a week in Amsterdam
Scott M. Stingel
Emerging Voice Technology Inc.
URL: www.evtmedia.com
-----Original Message-----
Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:23 PM
To: Asterisk Users
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI
Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have
someone played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck
can afford
to pay such a price for a week's training???
_______________________________________________
Asterisk-Users mailing list
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
_______________________________________________
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http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Michael Devenijn
2003-12-02 14:25:59 UTC
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You hear it very well !!!!!

As i think i'm polite, so i'm not going to put the name of the company online but believe me their was a hole in the seiling after i read the email ...


________________________________

Van: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk [mailto:***@karlsbakk.net]
Verzonden: di 2/12/2003 15:23
Aan: Asterisk Users
Onderwerp: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI
Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have
someone played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck can afford
to pay such a price for a week's training???
Mark Spencer
2003-12-02 15:50:39 UTC
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Post by Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have
someone played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck can afford
to pay such a price for a week's training???
I'll give you training for $20,000. I'll even throw in a back rub.

Mark
Michael Devenijn
2003-12-02 14:50:00 UTC
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the details :

16000USD for the training
+ 10% for administration
+ Travel costs to Belgium (from canada)
+ Hotel costs ...

so 'im not far from 20000USD ...( it could be even more )

We have a budget but not such a big one ... and even if i would, i would be a bad manager to accept such a cost considering to having a high level engineer (very high) on my pay rol costs something like 8000? a month all in ...
so calculate yourself ...



________________________________

Van: Scott Stingel [mailto:***@evtmedia.com]
Verzonden: di 2/12/2003 16:18
Aan: asterisk-***@lists.digium.com
Onderwerp: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI


Must have included a week in Amsterdam

Scott M. Stingel
Emerging Voice Technology Inc.

URL: www.evtmedia.com
-----Original Message-----
Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:23 PM
To: Asterisk Users
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI
Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have
someone played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck
can afford
to pay such a price for a week's training???
_______________________________________________
Asterisk-Users mailing list
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
mattf
2003-12-02 15:59:04 UTC
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maybe it means "United States Dimes" :) $2,000 ain't bad for a week of
training.

But to answer your question, I have a friend that does Checkpoint firewall
training/consultation and he gets upto $20,000 per week for running training
classes. Not in the US mind you but abroad, mostly in Europe. He says
American companies are too cheap.

MATT---


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Devenijn [mailto:***@dkma.be]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:26 AM
To: asterisk-***@lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI


You hear it very well !!!!!

As i think i'm polite, so i'm not going to put the name of the company
online but believe me their was a hole in the seiling after i read the email
...




Van:Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk [mailto:***@karlsbakk.net]
Verzonden:di 2/12/2003 15:23
Aan:Asterisk Users
Onderwerp:RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI
Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have
someone played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck can afford
to pay such a price for a week's training???
Emanuele Pucciarelli
2003-12-02 16:56:46 UTC
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Hello,
Post by mattf
But to answer your question, I have a friend that does Checkpoint firewall
training/consultation and he gets upto $20,000 per week for running training
classes. Not in the US mind you but abroad, mostly in Europe. He says
American companies are too cheap.
I wouldn't say anything about your friend, but my own opinion in a
general case would be that whoever pays a single trainer $20,000 per
week of training either does not understand the value of the money he's
managing, or is getting back a proportional bribe. (I'm European
myself.)

Not that I wouldn't accept $20,000 per week - I simply wouldn't pay them
(and, if I accepted them, I'd keep 100% of them.) ;)

--
Emanuele
Joseph Finley
2003-12-02 16:41:00 UTC
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American companies are too cheap? That's laughable. I could get into
economic's but this is not the place. Your typical Cisco firewall PIX
training class avgs. $2499 a week. I can only think he's training 10 people
@ $2,000 a week. If he's making $20k for a week of training, no wonder why
they only work 3 days a week.

Joe


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-***@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-***@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of mattf
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:59 AM
To: 'asterisk-***@lists.digium.com'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI


maybe it means "United States Dimes" :) $2,000 ain't bad for a week of
training.

But to answer your question, I have a friend that does Checkpoint firewall
training/consultation and he gets upto $20,000 per week for running training
classes. Not in the US mind you but abroad, mostly in Europe. He says
American companies are too cheap.

MATT---


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Devenijn [mailto:***@dkma.be]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:26 AM
To: asterisk-***@lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI


You hear it very well !!!!!

As i think i'm polite, so i'm not going to put the name of the company
online but believe me their was a hole in the seiling after i read the email
...




Van:Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk [mailto:***@karlsbakk.net] Verzonden:di 2/12/2003
15:23 Aan:Asterisk Users
Onderwerp:RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI
Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have someone
played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck can afford to pay such
a price for a week's training???
Michael Devenijn
2003-12-02 15:52:45 UTC
Permalink
We are a little Belgian company working for the automotive world (car builders, leasing companies , ...) and believe me if i make an offer of 20000USD for a week i'll never have to make an offer again !

I also worked in the past (2000 which is considered as the craziest year for Tech companies) with consultants from one of the big consultant companies worldwide (PW....) and a TOP TOP consultant never reached this rates ...

________________________________

Van: mattf [mailto:***@vicimarketing.com]
Verzonden: di 2/12/2003 16:59
Aan: 'asterisk-***@lists.digium.com'
Onderwerp: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI


maybe it means "United States Dimes" :) $2,000 ain't bad for a week of
training.

But to answer your question, I have a friend that does Checkpoint firewall
training/consultation and he gets upto $20,000 per week for running training
classes. Not in the US mind you but abroad, mostly in Europe. He says
American companies are too cheap.

MATT---


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Devenijn [mailto:***@dkma.be]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:26 AM
To: asterisk-***@lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI


You hear it very well !!!!!

As i think i'm polite, so i'm not going to put the name of the company
online but believe me their was a hole in the seiling after i read the email
...




Van:Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk [mailto:***@karlsbakk.net]
Verzonden:di 2/12/2003 15:23
Aan:Asterisk Users
Onderwerp:RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI
Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have
someone played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck can afford
to pay such a price for a week's training???
Michael T Farnworth
2003-12-02 18:00:33 UTC
Permalink
I think we need to look carefully at the situation here. We all know that
training on complex specialist products can often come in at between
2-4,000USD per week per individual (certainly this is my commercial
experience). However normally when I go on a training course there are
around 10 other people in the class at least, which amounts to
20-40,000USD for the week of training.

It may well be that the company offering the training could use their
trainer for instructing a group of 10 people instead, in which case
offering the training for less than 20,000USD would result in a loss of
revenue.

The figure may sound ridiculous, but it might just reflect commercial
reality.

Mtf
Sistemas - ANALITICA MD
2003-12-02 18:53:07 UTC
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hello boys,

I'm trying to get 30 digital or ADSI phones for asterisk and 2 that serves
as console for receptionist that also works with asterisk,

I've heard of the smartalk ones (SE310 and ST110) for console and ST10
ST20 or ST 30 for desktop phones, but i'd like to know about any others i
may use, and if you can give me some brands and prices if possible, i'd be
glad.

Thanks in advance
--
Sistemas - ANALITCA - MD
Michael Graves
2003-12-03 02:26:55 UTC
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FWIW, my employer manufactured broadcast graphics hardware. Our
training courses run $4500 USD for a 3 day package, + $1000/day
thereafter. That's $6500/wk, including travel and expenses. This covers
training, commisioning and integration...and is about the industry
norm.

Vertical market training is pricey, but $20k/wk is outta hand.

Michael
Post by Joseph Finley
American companies are too cheap? That's laughable. I could get into
economic's but this is not the place. Your typical Cisco firewall PIX
training class avgs. $2499 a week. I can only think he's training 10 people
@ $2,000 a week. If he's making $20k for a week of training, no wonder why
they only work 3 days a week.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI
maybe it means "United States Dimes" :) $2,000 ain't bad for a week of
training.
But to answer your question, I have a friend that does Checkpoint firewall
training/consultation and he gets upto $20,000 per week for running training
classes. Not in the US mind you but abroad, mostly in Europe. He says
American companies are too cheap.
MATT---
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI
You hear it very well !!!!!
As i think i'm polite, so i'm not going to put the name of the company
online but believe me their was a hole in the seiling after i read the email
...
15:23 Aan:Asterisk Users
Onderwerp:RE: [Asterisk-Users] CTI/TAPI
Post by Michael Devenijn
Just to inform the community ... i received an
offer last week for 1 week of asterisk training
+/-20000USD !!!!!! We can't aford this !!!!!
Is that USD 20.000,- as in twenty thousand US dollars, or is have someone
played around with the keyboard? If so - who the fuck can afford to pay such
a price for a week's training???
_______________________________________________
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http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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